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Vul:
there,
no more duplicate name tokens messing up my loadin
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Ganaroth:
Yeah,
I know I'm bad at that. Plus side, restarting did work.
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Vul:
I
really wish overlays were destroyed on campaign change
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Ganaroth:
Eh,
this is the first time I've had a problem. But we have different
views on "Good enough," lol.
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Riot has connected.
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Vul:
hai
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Ra'ven:
a
bit sad I can't take tomorow off of work, but happy that I can
take the following 3 weeks off
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Ra'ven:
also
I broke a fanblade on my videocard so that sucks
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Ganaroth:
Could
be worse, all told.
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Ganaroth:
I
think I managed to kill a second bg3 playthrough by getting greedy
with mods. Maybe I should have some basic understanding of how
they work before installing 84 of them...
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Ganaroth:
Alternatively,
maybe I should wait until the game is stable, and all the mods
aren't being rewritten every couple of days...
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Ra'ven:
needs
more wapajack playlist things
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Ganaroth:
I
don't know what that is, sorry.
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Riot:
I am
only going to install one mod currently that someone just made
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Riot:
That
allows me to turn my Way of the Four Elements monk into Way of the
Sun Soul, which is what I love
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Ra'ven:
controversial
tool for skyrim that lets someone make a modlist and then share it
so others can automatically download and set it up like that person
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Ra'ven:
I
downloaded exactly 2 mods for bg3
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Ra'ven:
all
party members and don't disable cheevos with mods
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Ra'ven:
it's
like one mod except
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Ganaroth:
I
want everything. Every time I see something I wish was there, I
find a mod for it.
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Riot:
Wait
using any mods disables cheevos?
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Ra'ven:
I
mean I'd add the catpeople or foxpeople but no
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Ra'ven:
using
most mods ya
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Ra'ven:
I
think gfx only ones don't?
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Riot:
Could
you link me to the mod that fixes that?
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Ra'ven:
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/668
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Ganaroth:
I
like how Sun Soul monks are basically dbz fighters. And there is a
mod that adds cat people. There's one that adds like 50 new races,
including ones from FF14.
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Ra'ven:
I
mean 5th ed has khajit or whatever as standard race so makes sense
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Ganaroth:
Khajiit
is Elder Scrolls.
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Ra'ven:
tabaxi
want a sweetroll
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Ra'ven:
I
mean it could be really doughy and the like, so a bad one
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Ganaroth:
I
guess, but I'm arbitrarily deciding to exclude the bad ones.
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vonel has connected.
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Ra'ven:
I
mean I also want catgirls/foxgirls in starfield but I think that's
going to be possibly more a stretch
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Ganaroth:
Well,
that's better than some things. I'm more or less awake this time,
so maybe we can make a full session.
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Ganaroth:
So,
okay. Please tell me where we left off. I was fading rapidly at
that point, so my memory is a bit hazy. I know what I had PLANNED,
but I don't know what I actually got to say, etc.)
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Ra'ven:
I
do not remember precisly, so prob guna be logs if nobody else does
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Riot:
Gonna
be logs I think
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Ganaroth:
You
were all talking with Okorion trying to figure out why the Emir
gave the message he did, and what the ramifications might be, I
know that.
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Riot:
We
were discussing with the professor about the insanity of that
decree, especially with the Silverfang there
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Ganaroth:
(Yeah,
that checks out. I just don't remember the exact point in the
conversation. -.-)
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Ra'ven:
also
it turns out he was just following orders+is not greatest at
giving speaches (big feels)
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Ganaroth:
(Yes,
that is the case for Okorion. As it turned out, while he's more or
less in charge of the science, what he's actually able and
required to SAY in this public forum is what powerful political
figures have told him to say. In this case, the Emir, though it's
questionable whether he would have given those orders to Okorion
in person.)
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Ganaroth:
(And
yeah, he's not a wonderful public speaker, and has no real
understanding of the political situation and how difficult it is.)
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=^v^=:
(( oh right we were debating on if we
could just let the silverfang rough him up a bit then walk out ))
=^v^=:
(( or well, Ra'vem was airing out how
since she has this whole double-agent thing going that it's actually
better for his captors to let him go after doing that because it lends
credence to it being an op ))
=^v^=:
(( instead of just killing him or
something ))
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Professor Okorion:
"I
would like to understand as much as you. Frankly, it's insanity
that everything isn't being dropped in favor of seeking a
resolution to this, given the strength of the data. Instead I
clearly heard people in the front row talking about mercantile
profits, and these cultists are taking a course of action that
will get everyone killed: preventing others from acting. Instead,
we have this.. menagerie of the greedy, the hostile, and the
insane. It isn't what I was expecting." He rubs his hands together
a bit. "I was really looking forward to this, in a way. Everyone,
great and small, uniting to address a problem that was only
discovered because of research in my field. It was delightful,
when I wasn't dying from worry. Now, though..."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"Yes,
deplorable, to consider what the world will be like after the
crisis. Ra'ven is right; you talk about the strength of the
evidence, but had precious little to show."
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Ra'ven:
"Everyone
working together doesn't happen unless they are forced or agree,
and it was just a threat?"
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Ra'ven sighs, "It'd work better if the
opening was showing why this isn't survivable."
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Lucky nods in agreement with Ra'ven.
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Professor Okorion:
"...most
of it was very technical, and would have been lost on the
audience. I presume that it was decided that the dignitaries would
take us at our word until their own experts could verify our
findings. With Elsora's notebook, it would be a matter of days,
not months, to see exactly what is happening. It points directly
to all the relevant data." He hesitates. "There is some estimation
and HIGHLY EDUCATED guesswork involved in explaining what the
consequences would be. It depends on the number of offspring, how
they affect tidal forces compared to their mother, whether they
are active upon birth, rather than in a torpor as Garmera is.
Would they even have the same planar resonance properties, or
would we be looking a potentially dozens of new ones? The best
case scenario is that it's all harmless, but I wouldn't bet on it.
A half -dozen pups scattered across the sky could very well tear
the vortex itself to shreds from unbalanced effects on thermal and
kinetic currents."
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Professor Okorion:
"At
its worst... babies are usually hungry creatures, and we know what
happened last time Garmera tried to have a meal."
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=^v^=:
(( do we? ))
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Professor Okorion:
((Do
you what?))
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Professor Okorion:
(Sorry,
I looked over the conversation again, and I'm not quite getting
what you're saying. My fault. Explain?)
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Riot:
(( do we know what happened last time
Garmera tried to have a meal, I presume ))
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Professor Okorion:
((Ate
the sun and the moon, shattered the world into the whirling
vortex. And yeah, there is enough evidence of what happened that
most people with any decent education would understand that before
Garmera, different light sources lit the sky, which she then
consumed, and "reshaped" the world, although there is little
consensus on what the shape of the world would previously have
been.))
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Ra'ven hmms, "Might need another
skylight then?"
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Professor Okorion:
((Nobody
really understands what the sun and moon ARE, exactly, but they
know they were a big deal from how often they've showed up in
frescos in ancient tombs and such.))
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Ra'ven:
"Also
the best case is that more wolves makes more world."
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Professor Okorion:
"Wolf
above, no. Some of my colleagues maintain that the lights within
Garmera's head are not merely indicators of the cycle, but the
actual cause of them. Do you actually want more sources of power
like that, acting in a totally unpredictable manner, because we
haven't spent thousands of years studying THEM." He shakes his,
seeming genuinely incredulous. "Make more... You mean well, but
that's the equivalent of aiming a ballista bolt at a wall, and
hoping that it somehow becomes another support column. We know
what Garmera does. We do NOT know what her children would do. But
there's little reason to suspect that they will act in a precisely
opposite manner."
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Professor Okorion:
(studying
THEM?. He shakes his head.)
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Ra'ven:
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Ra'ven sighs, "I'm not saying I'm
right, you are a foremost researcher, just like... I'm not the
only one who thinks this... And you want everyone to work
together."
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Professor Okorion:
"...incidentally,
I am neutral in this debate over the cycle sources. There is good
evidence on both sides, unfortunately, and we don't yet have the
applications to test more directly... Ahem, sorry. Asking "why" of
Garmera is not a particularly productive activity. It could merely
be that she ate her fill, and is still full. It could be that
she's in hibernation, but that the birth of her children will wake
her, and she will finish her task. We don't know the origins of
Garmera, outside of various cults and philosophies, so it's not
even possible for us to tell if she differs substantially in a
mental sense from a standard grey wolf. I think I understand what
you are saying about... pandering... though. I took an oath once
to never misrepresent, falsify, or omit factual information when
it came to ethereology. Making a definite claim as to what will
happen would be unethical." He is silent. "...If I can somehow
help to repair the damage, I am willing to be unethical, this
time. My oath is inconsequential in the face of this."
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Professor Okorion:
"So,
as I am clearly helpless when dealing with people who aren't
already a part of my silo, I would ask you if I can help repair
the damage I have done, and how."
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Ra'ven tilts her head, "I mean, you
don't really have to? You just simplified wrong. You put your
likely conclusion as for sure. I don't think people would belive
that just because the college asserts it, they'd at least need
their important smart people convinced right? You are, after all,
required to obey the Emir right?"
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Ra'ven:
"I
mean you basically OVERspoke, as opposed to misspoke..." She
sighs, "Really, you going back to the college and your normal job
probably works best, since I would assume actual diplomats would
be forced to be sent to clearify or the like."
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Ra'ven:
"I
guess the downside of my plan would be your genuine innocence
would seem to some as fake."
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Professor Okorion:
"Technically,
everyone in the city does. It's an interesting quirk of Kelarite
policy: technically everyone who is IN Si En Kelar at any given
time is considered a citizen. A random traveler arriving here
literally has all of the same rights and responsibilities as
someone born and raised in this place. If you don't hold a
permanent citizenship, that status is revoked when you leave. In
short, you are all the Emir's subjects, but you are also entitled
to the protection of his military, guard, and diplomatic corps, to
the same degree as I am. I merely happen to have a closer working
relationship with him than most, and thus can more easily draw his
ire through disobedience."
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Ra'ven blinks "Oh I suppose also it
coudl go wrong a lot of ways?"
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Professor Okorion:
"They
would think I was lying? But... no, I've already said that the
oath is no longer applicable."
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Ra'ven nods, "I mean it'd be kinda
obvious to people who actually know you so you probalby could keep
doing research and the like."
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Ra'ven:
"But
in the outside of acedemica thing, they'd think you were a plot by
silverfang to discredit that plan of action, maybe."
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Ra'ven:
"Which,
I mean, is true, sorta. Just a retroactive plan and unwittingly."
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Ra'ven:
"The
upside for you even if you think the plan is good is that it makes
it sliverfang's doing not the Emir's"
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Ra'ven:
"So
it doesn't discredet actually working together to a solution that
might end up being that eventually anyways...."
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Professor Okorion:
"Oh.
For a moment I thought that you were saying that I should speak
the outright truth, unfiltered, and then allow the consequences to
happen And hope that my public punishment is seen as commitment to
my words and evidence. If we can "pin" this... that's the term,
right? Pin this on the cult, they would be the ones blamed, and at
least a substantial portion of the dignitaries may resume the
summit?"
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Ra'ven:
"Also
you don't have to lie or misrepresent anything."
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Ra'ven:
"Ya,
exactly! That it works well for Silverfang might get you out of
here as well!"
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Professor Okorion:
"I
will definitely have to lie about my words being on the order of
the Emir. At least if I don't want that very public punishment I
mentioned."
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Ra'ven frowns, "If the Emir goes
forwards confirming those words, nothing could be done either way.
If they walk it back, the solution is to just not have people ask
you."
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Ra'ven:
"Your
punishment for this will hopefully be being kept out of the
spotlight, since you are a valued and important researcher on
this. Maybe demoted or something."
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Professor Okorion:
"Blaming
him for this situation is simply not a feasible course of action.
Nothing good would come of it, and I'd be floating in a
pain-sphere above the markets by tomorrow afternoon."
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Ra'ven:
"If
he wants to take the blame, that's on him but that'd be strange to
me, but I'm not exaclty from here and into the politics specific
to here that well."
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Ra'ven:
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Professor Okorion:
"So
the plan hinges on which of us will blink first. A very risky
proposition, given the power imbalance. The truth is, I still
don't know why he gave me that policy to announce. And if I don't
know the motive, it will be hard to determine how he will act when
pressed"
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Ra'ven hmms, "Would they err... pain
sphere you for being officially compromised when you are obviously
just being given bad information? Given your somewhat lack of
skill at lying."
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Ra'ven looks to Patience who seems
political, "Hey, I mean, if they were going to like, execute him
or something like that, maybe we should hide him out at our base?"
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Professor Okorion:
"If
I had been compromised due to the actions of others, no. Given the
size of the debacle, I'm afraid that a demotion will definitely be
in order... and that's a whole new set of problems, as I don't
have a subordinate who could acquit well my current position. But
nothing unnecessarily punitive. If it looks as though I'm trying
to put the blame on the Red-Gold Palace, though, their response
will be very different. Metaphorically, until today I stood at the
top of a fairly high island. Unfortunately, all that means is a
longer, more painful fall into the abyss. Metaphorically."
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Professor Okorion:
"...I'll
have to hand off my research to people I can trust, so that if the
Emir's Justiciars decide that they constitute seditious writings,
they can publish them later under their own names."
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Ra'ven nods, "So it's somewhat
important to get you back then."
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Professor Okorion:
"It's
certainly important to me."
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Ra'ven:
"Oh
I suppose that's actually an important question to ask you though.
Those orders from the Emir... did you get them directly from him
or via note or order or seal?"
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"If
he is about to be executed, I'll give him a pouch of gold,
introduce him to Captain Forgery, and never acknowledge his
existence again. What makes you think I'd risk putting my own neck
in the same noose? Yours too."
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Ra'ven:
"If
he's going to be executed that's a bad decision and I'd feel bad
about it but we were then the ones to bring him to justice."
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Ra'ven:
"if
even THAT isn't good enough, we would also probably be best off
with that bag of gold and that airship ticket."
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Professor Okorion:
"A
fair position, and why I haven't asked. In any case, I received a
document sealed with the Emiral crest, by Kothos. The head of the
city guard. She works very closely with the Emir to help manage
this city. It was quite flattering that she delivered it herself."
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Rai Patience Cantor smiles at Ra'ven.
"I think I can see which is the devious sibling."
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Ra'ven tilts her head, "Vul used to
think my stories were fun."
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Ra'ven:
"Though
I don't know, it's not exactly always the high ways my path has
traveled, perhaps I have become more what is expected..." she says
a bit quietly
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Ra'ven:
"We
should STILL have Yith try to figure out what she can about their
cool yawn-teleport."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"Oh,
there's nothing wrong with Vul. His enthusiasm for all things
'cute' can be grating on occasion, but he's been nothing but
helpful and cooperative." Her look becomes distant. "It almost
felt like something I'd done before. Working in a small group like
that, making quick decisions over life and death, but with people
you could count on at your flanks. I'm not in the habit of relying
on others, or haven't been, so it felt unusual. Nice, even."
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Clarity turns to the Rai with a
surprised look, before adjusting on her feet and looking away.
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Lucky raises an eyebrow, but doesn't
acknowledge anything. "Vul has been a huge help getting us as far
as we've gotten. Funny, loves foxes. Good person, seems to me. I
doubt you're far off on that mark, Ra'ven."
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Rai Patience Cantor doesn't appear to
notice Clarity's reaction. "That's what happens when those close
to each other separate for a time. They both grow in directions
neither could have expected. Whatever he was then, he's the person
Lucky described now."
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Yltheria:
"I
can like a different fox, if it will provoke a reaction that you
want. It doesn't preclude continuing to like him. Unless it does,
in which case I withdraw my offer." She's staring into space,
barely blinking.
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Lucky chuckles slightly.
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Ra'ven:
"He'd
be extremelly jellous. Same if you say something is cuter then him"
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Yltheria:
"The
yawn-teleporter works by accessing a liminal dimension in which
time and space are null concepts, directs you toward the piece of
reality that DOES contain those concepts, to an anchor device. A
lot of the power of the device, really, is taken up by protective
enchantments, in order to keep the laws of that universe from
tearing you apart." She frowns. "The same principles should apply
to the Silent Gate, which in theory means that moving between life
and death could also be an efficient means of physical
transportation. But I don't know how one would do that. That kind
of manipulation is currently beyond me. It would speed things up
tremendously if I had access to the inventor's notes. There are
likely to be at least as many congruities as differences, so it
would speed things up to an unknown but significant degree."
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Ra'ven:
"I...
wonder how many takers would take a shortcut through being dead."
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Lucky:
"Pass.
Hard pass."
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Ra'ven blinks, "... Er, I guess Devils
do that when you kill a possessd person, sort of."
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Yltheria:
"One
thing that is almost certainly true is the inherent danger of the
mechanism. The realm it travels through is roughly as hostile to
our forms of life as literal death, so a flaw in design,
manufacture, or use would trap the passengers in that null-space.
And since without the protection of the device you would be torn
to shreds at a conceptual level, any attempt to retrieve you would
be futile. There would be no "you" to recover. The Silent Gate is
a bit kinder than that. There would be a small but real chance of
being ejected at any active anchor device in the world,
transformed into either an undead creature, or... something we
don't have a name for."
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Lucky:
"Yep.
Like I said: Pass."
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Yltheria:
"No.
I'm going to build one. It will be much safer than this person's,
and I will convince you to try it with me."
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Ra'ven:
"It
wouldn't have the same lack of being able to follow though."
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Lucky smiles at Yltheria, "You can
try, kid."
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Eileen:
"Let
me know when your ready to give it a try."
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Yltheria:
"I
always try. It doesn't make sense not to. In any case, I think
that I heard one of you say something about the Professor
pretending that he was being threatened by the cult, and that's
why he said those things? Also, thank you Eileen. I would
definitely have asked you, but a confirmation from your end is
very reassuring."
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Ra'ven:
"No
we are pretending that he was tricked by the cult."
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Ra'ven:
"As
a trick, by the cult."
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Yltheria:
"Oh.
Yes, there is an important difference there."
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Ra'ven:
"Sort
of."
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Yltheria:
"...I'm
uncomfortable with the amount of fluid information you are giving
me."
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Ra'ven nods, "See? Same with him.
That's why it's important to frame it without needing him to
pretend things. Like you can go ask the researcher how their stuff
works becaues you want to know and replicate it in your field."
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Ra'ven:
"To
borrow an Iron saying, 'Truith is the best lie'"
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Yltheria:
"I
was prepared to beat the Professor up, to make it "look good,"
which is a story element from a number of the tales Hector has
told. me. I'm less prepared to facilitate this plan, mostly
because it involves people, and because I don't know the specifics
of the plan." She cocks her head to one side. "Because I don't
understand, will you no longer be needing my services?"
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Ra'ven:
"Err...
I wouldn't actually have you do that, but you do wanna find out
the researcher's notes and the like right?"
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Ra'ven:
"I
mean, really I'd have Lucky or Elieen do it, since Lucky was a
bartender and knows what beat up people are supposed to look like
and Elieen is a genral and might know the proper technique or the
like...?"
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"You
are a member of this organization even if your understanding is...
less than optimal. All of us, including myself, are investments in
the future. You'll be useful later."
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Yltheria:
"Could
I please stay and watch, then? I'd like to acquire that knowledge
for future condundrums, since I'm supposed to be useful later."
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Yltheria 's gaze travels between Lucky
and Eileen. It doesn't particularly feel like she's asking which
of you will help her, but it's also not clear what else it could
mean. And her blank expression is not helping.
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Lucky:
"I'm
still not sold on the necessity of beating him up."
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Hector Achilon:
"I
think that was something our little girl imagined, and it got away
from her. It happens sometimes."
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Hector Achilon:
"Whether
we do that or not, we have to somehow escape this place first.
Remember, that Vayak guy said that everyone here should lay low
for a few weeks. I bet he won't be happy if we just try to leave.
We'll either need a good excuse, or big heavy boots to kick people
with."
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=^v^=:
(( vayak is the guy who's mansion we
are in right? ))
Riot:
(( Vayak is the guy who we dealt with
at the thing in the city ))
Riot:
(( who we teleported here with ))
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Hector Achilon:
((No,
Vayak is the leader of this cell of cultists. The man whose
mansion this is is Pasha Phelgon, who is not technically part of
the cult, but does agree with their beliefs, and provides them
with shelter and resources of his own volition.))
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Eileen nods
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vonel:
(( brb ))
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Ra'ven:
"Is
there a need to be immediate about it? A day or two can be spun as
us pretending to take time to find him."
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Ra'ven:
"I
mean I rather much want to know what's going on, but I suspect
finding that out might be happening behind the doors as it were."
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=^v^=:
(( anyone recall if Ra'ven was around
for Elieen's map demonstration? ))
Riot:
(( I do not ))
vonel:
(( I think she was off delevering
information ))
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"No
immediate need to act, but a great deal of immediate need to
THINK. If we don't have a plan when we do try to make our escape,
we will simply fail. However, I am not against allowing this
charade to play out for a few more days, so that those of us here
with expertise might learn something valuable. If Phelgon is in
contact with more cells, or more Patrons, and who they are, for
instance. Meanwhile I suspect Yltheria will be doing to same kind
of cladestine information gathering with regards to the device.
Though I also suspect the term "clandestine" will not quite meet
our definition of the word."
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Ra'ven:
"I
mean after a bit we can likely be led bindfolded away I suppose to
walk back, out of respect for their secrecy of location."
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Lucky:
"Assuming
they don't ask too many questions and find out we're not a real
cell."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"They'll
take better precautions than that. Pasha Phelgon is a public
figure. We're in his house. I could find the address in minutes.
Once enough time has passed, they may attempt to subsume us, or
send us to a different island on a skyship."
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Ra'ven:
"Oh,
I suppose that's correct huh."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"This
location is only secret as a base of the cult. In all other
respects, it's a gaudy, overornamented Goldfire district mansion."
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Ra'ven:
"I...
don't feel like they'd try to subsume us, given the reletive
leadership differences."
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Ra'ven:
"Or
at least outcome... For that I would guess Vayak would need a show
of competence to make up right?" She hmms, "He might even be
willing to expidite us going away to quell doubt."
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Ra'ven looks away, "I... uh... don't
really wanna end up having to become the leader of this cult..."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"Perhaps
not, but it would come down to three possibilities: First,
relocation to a place that both Vayak and Phelgon agree is safe
enough for your life and their secrets. Second, an extended stay
here, at risk of Pasha Phelgon's ire. Or three, a battle for
leadership, whatever form that takes. Those are the options they
will leave us. Our job is to secretly create additional ones."
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Ra'ven:
"If
not for that higher leadership, gratitude would also be a
reasoning."
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Ra'ven:
'We
did, suposedly, sink our cover to save his pack and his mission.
He'd be a bit obligated to help us recover our old mission."
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Ra'ven:
"Oh,
perhaps a mock battle at a decoy location!"
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Ra'ven:
"Then
we could 'rescue' the dean from his captors."
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Lucky:
"Doesn't
sound like a bad idea, honestly."
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Ra'ven hmms
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Ra'ven:
"You
know what might be a better sell?"
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Ra'ven:
"If
it's a mock battle we are driven off by, where we manage to rescue
the dean anyways."
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Ra'ven:
"Makes
Vayak look better, right?"
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"...also,
am I the only one considering blackmailing Phelgon over his
involvement? He could certainly afforf it. Ahem, in any case that
"gratitude" would be the cause of situation two. However, that is
an unstable solution. Phelgon was not there, and has no gratitude
towards us. We are simply strangers who teleported into his house,
and whom he is obliged to shelter. But, if I read this right, the
mantle of de facto leadership passes between he and Vayak fairly
often. Vayak's men are the ones enacting the cult's will, but
Phelgon is the one funding them. We'd have limited time before
Phelgon uses his connections to discover that we are lying, or
simply kicks us out for being nuisances, resulting in situations
one or three." Sheraises an eyebrow. "So... we stage our own
'defeat' at the hands of overwhelming cult forces, but manage to
eke out a practical victory by rescuing a hostage... who will
promptly tell the authorities that we are not in fact cultists, as
your acting at the summit would suggest, but are in fact posing as
such in order to help take them down, and rescue him. All of which
is true, so he shouldn't have an issue with saying it."
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Ra'ven nods
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Ra'ven:
"Also
as a side effect, if the other cultists DO end up eventually
coming after us, sicne we aren't really fighting, we can give them
a false idea of our real strength."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"It
makes Vayak look good, 'defeating' such an obviously skilled group
of spies. It makes us look good by accomplishing the mission, even
though it was extremely dangerous, at risk of our own lives. It
even makes Professor Okorion look good, because now he has a
scapegoat."
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Ra'ven:
"Either
weak enough they underestimate us or strong enough to make them
think twice."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"I'd
prefer to leave them thinking us weaker than reality. That's an
easier situation to counter if it falls apart."
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Ra'ven nods, "Plus, I mean... it
shouldn't be that hard to sell, there is a lot of steam to blow
off on those cultists, I expect."
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Ra'ven:
"I
mean, afford maybe, but it'd be better to blackmail him into not
messing with us right? If we were going that route? Since he does
have a cult he could comand against us if needed?"
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Ra'ven:
"We
sorta of both have the knife to our throats, proverbly speaking."
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Ra'ven:
"His
silence c osts him nothing, his talking, well.... there is a giant
wolf cult statue under his main hall."
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Ra'ven:
"An
important and basically irreplaceable one to the silverfang cult."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"The
blackmail was just an idle thought. I'm not THAT blinded by gold.
My thought was that we would simply resume our lives per normal,
with Vayak and Phelgon still thinking that our jack-of-all-trades
mercenary company is secretly an organ of the Silverfang Cult,
hiding behind our demonstrated innocence. Heh. We might even get
business from them in the future."
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Ra'ven nods, "Ya, plus it might even
make it easier for us to keep tabs on them right?"
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"It's
generally easier to keep tabs on someone who isn't hiding from
you, yes."
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Ra'ven nods, "I... don't know when,
exactly... I should try suggesting this though. 'how fast do
things move in this town' is not a thing I have picked up on yet."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"I
suppose it will be my job to occupy Phelgon's attention; as a
fellow noble, he should be more willing to speak with me, even if
he.... well, he outranks me by a fair amount, but he'll still want
to be polite to me." She looks at Ra'ven, puzzled. "What do you
mean?"
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Ra'ven:
"Would
it be suspicious to suggest plannig it now? Should we wait a few
days to see what happens? Is there going to be a riot?" she hmms,
"Heck IS there a riot right now?"
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=^v^=:
(( there is outskirts of this town or
is it city to cliff in all directions? ))
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Rai Patience Cantor:
((It's
basically city to cliff.))
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=^v^=:
(( sad for ra'ven ))
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Ra'ven:
"Also
where should we make suffere the wrath of the guards."
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Riot:
(( brb ))
Riot:
(( back ))
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Rai Patience Cantor:
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"Where
should we make suffer their wrath when we make our move.... How
about the docks? It will look as though the cult was attempting to
abscond with him on a skyship, and we prevented it just in time.
Plus, there are some customs officials who deserve to have a bad
day."
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Eileen:
"Sounds
good to me."
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Clarity:
"Seems
like the best place, based on what you've said."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"And
if absolutely EVERYTHING goes wrong, and we're out of options...
well, we could always actually steal a skyship ourselves. I'd hate
for all this work to have been for nothing, but I'd rather be set
back to square one than dead."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"...do
we wish to avoid involving unrelated civilians, at least as much
as possible?"
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Ra'ven:
"I
mean, ya? most of the don't deserve it."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"Perhaps
we could somehow ask the good captain if we could use his ship as
a set piece, then."
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Lucky:
"We
could. I for one don't want any innocents getting hit by an errant
blast of something."
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Ra'ven:
"Getting
word to him seems hard, perhaps we should just do it and beg
forgivness if it's a problem. We did save him..."
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Ra'ven:
"I
hope they have another of those globes..."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"We
can cover any damage, we'll have permission, and as I recall,
Forgery uses constructs to run his ship instead of a live crew. We
could send the cult to steal his ship, and there wouldn't even be
the risk of living guards or sailors dying." She thinks about it
and nods. "Yes, forgiveness rather than permission. Contacting him
would just put him in danger, and he's already falling apart as it
is."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"Before
you say anything, Eileen, I'm not talking about your kind. I care,
to a degree, about your life, as much as any flesh being. I simply
mean that I have no sympathy for sub-sapient automatons."
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Rai Patience Cantor sighs. "Yes,
behold the mighty rhetorician, reduced to having to overexplain
herself so that she doesn't sound like a bigot, and then looking
much too defensive in her denial."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"I
swear, this is another "little death" situation all over again.
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Ra'ven:
"I
always saw those kinda constructs like zombies except for iron and
stone or wood..."
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Eileen shrugs, "I was made to order
hundreds of my kind to there potential deaths... never happened,
but that was the case."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"Lucky
was the only one here who witnessed it, but it was very
embarrassing." She nods at Eileen. "Ah, I see. No target to
accidentally hit. Well, I'm glad that we resolved easily, because
we need to gather as much intel as we can, convince the cult and
Phelgon of our plan, and enact said plan, all within a few days
time. That's all we'll have before the riots begin."
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Clarity:
"For
the record, I don't think any of us took what you said the wrong
way. Thought I am going to be asking about this 'little death'
story, sometime. It sounds amazing."
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Professor Okorion:
"Ahem...
this is all very much NOT my area of expertise, so my simply
listening seemed the best option. But, on this matter... how many
days are we talking about?"
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Unknown command: "mem shrugs". Try
/help
for a list of
commands.
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Ra'ven shrugs
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"I'll
tell you about it. If I don't someone else will. But later, yes."
Patience has clearly begun doing whatever kind of political
calculus she thinks is helpful this time, frowns, and says. "Two
to four. Five would be the extreme outside, but I wouldn't bet on
it. If I were forced to bet, I'd say three."
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Professor Okorion:
"This
presents a problem, one which IS within my area of expertise,
unfortunately. Three days from now, at about two hours past
midday, Garmera has shown signs of shifting to an Argent Cycle.
Normally the population would wait it out, but with a hundred
factions about to go to war with each other, I fear it will simply
make the rioting that much more dangerous."
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Riot:
(( which one is Argent again? ))
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Professor Okorion:
((Two
Moons. Feywild stuff.))
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Lucky:
"Fantastic."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"Wonderful."
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Ra'ven:
"ooo!
I like those... But we can use that as an excuse to make haste,
since it's a particuarly inauspicious time to enact plans."
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=^v^=:
(( ra'ven "Wonderful" except not
ironic ))
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"If
we can make it happen that quickly. We might be able to pull this
off just before the cycle hits us. It will be a race, though."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"Of
course, they'll know that too, so it might actually help.
Regardless, we should plan for a future in which our staged fight
happens in the middle of an argent."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
"Prepare
for the worst, after all."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
(subarashi!
(claps hands like an anime villain.))
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=^v^=:
(( ra'ven going to go get vicory cake
if plan works ))
=^v^=:
(( the just-as cake ))
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Rai Patience Cantor:
((That's
actually awesome, and if you win, I'll make that happen.))
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Rai Patience Cantor:
((Uh,
anyway, it's 10 now. About time to end this thing. This week y'all
got homework! I would like you folks to each write a paragraph
telling me what your character is doing to prepare for your
fake/not fake rescue. I can evaluate what kind of problems and
resistance you might encounter that way, to deliver an experience
that's a little more tailored than "15 wolf cultists in this
fight. If you avoid it, there are 15 wolf cultists in the next
one."
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Rai Patience Cantor:
(The
curse of having to make tokens, and background that aren't just
scribbles on a whiteboard.)
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Riot:
(( sounds good lol ))
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Rai Patience Cantor:
((Cool.
Like I said, a paragraph. You can write more if you want, but I'm
just asking for one complete paragraph, and I will be whatever my
version of happy is.))
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Ra'ven:
dammit
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Rai Patience Cantor:
((And
I also am very aware of the irony of the flakiest person on earth
assigning homework.))
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Ra'ven:
now
I wanna make yet another ironic front company
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Rai Patience Cantor:
Lol
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Ra'ven:
the
"All according to Cake" pasteerer
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Ganaroth:
You
know, that's good enough and comprehensible enough that people not
familiar with the source material probably wouldn't realize that
it was one, and would just think it's cute. So that name might
actually have something more than niche appeal.
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Ganaroth:
(was
a meme, I mean.)
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Ra'ven:
and
like multiple layers of memes
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Ra'ven:
which
you can have emblematic as a cake
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Ganaroth:
Oh,
I finally got the joke. I was about to type something totally
different. Glad my brain finally started up again. Anyway, I hope
you have a great week!
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Riot:
Okay,
gnight! Thanks again!
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