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Ra'ven: wuf
Ganaroth: Things n' Stuff are up. I swear, I'm doing this even if it kills me, lol.
Ra'ven: but if you die you cant do it later too
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Riot: hi hi
Ganaroth: Hi hi hi
Ganaroth: How are things?
Riot: They are things
Riot: You?
Ganaroth: Just barely things.
Riot: Fair
Ganaroth:
Ganaroth: brb, sorry.
Riot: How's everyone else?
Ra'ven: work being suckx
Ra'ven: sorta cascading personell availablility failure
Riot: Always fun
Ra'ven: on the bright side almost to my time off
Ra'ven: hopefully nothing changes tha I can take it
Riot: Nice
Ganaroth: I shall cross my fingers and such.
Ganaroth: On the 20th, I have to watch the mom house for 2 weeks again. -.- Hopefully the internet there doesn't explode, because it's that place.
Riot: Gotcha
Ganaroth: I'd say she was taking advantage of me, but she really isn't. It's more like I wish that I'm envious of her being able to take vacations like that.
Ganaroth: (sans "I wish." Artifact of an earlier draft.)
Riot: Valid
Ganaroth: I somehow borked my BG3 act III save by doing something involving mods... though I'm not totally sure what. Regardless, I needed to start over, so this time I'm playing as Lae'zel instead of custom. Just with, as noted, a shit-ton of mods, some foreknowledge of what and what not to do, and me respeccing into monk as soon as possible so I can be an mma fighter.
Riot: Oh you're already to act 3? I just got there (I've been slow rolling because I know some things that I wasn't excited for but that changed with patch 2)
Ganaroth: Like what? Or send me spoilers on discord, or however.
Ganaroth: Regardless, there are some things that I've seen that suggest a couple of changes that I was hoping for as well, but things aren't TOTALLY confirmed yet, as far as I know. I do confess to being mildly annoyed about a particular character showing up in act 3, acting like the original version of said character. This was after I spent a fair bit of time with that character in Baldur's Gate 2 getting the character to realize that they could just not suck towards others, and change alignment. So I guess that's non-canon, then. But oh well.
vonel: ello
Riot: hi hi
Ra'ven: I was mad about romance stopping bug with karlach so I just switched to Laz'el
Riot: I will include Lae'zel in my second playthrough but she was annoying AF to me so I never rescued her in act 1
Riot: I hear her arc is good if you can pull it off but yeesh there's just so much I HATE THING
Riot: Even Shadowheart isn't as angry about everything
Ganaroth: Both of those character have pretty good "learn to be less shitty" character arcs, the biggest difference in which is that Shadowheart was an essentially good person who was inexplicably part of the hyper-cult of E-ville, while Lae'zel wasa fascist soldier and acts like it. And even after she starts progressing, she's still pretty severe and humorless. It made the small movements for her seem more meaningful. With Shadowheart, it was a process of finally becoming who she really was, while with Lae'zel, it was more about becoming the things she wasn't. Of course, they hate each other, and their journies are thematic mirrors, which I why I am going full-on "now kiss" in my Lae'zel playthrough.
Riot: lol nice
Riot: Yeah I hear that when you break Lae'zel's programming she starts basically acting like a little kid with how she experiences the world in a positive way
Ganaroth: She does. I mean, a kid who is still fine with throwing a bunch of kids into the woods, and then raising the ones who make it back alive (not a thing that actually happens I THINK), but in terms of being willing to learn and take it all in and appreciate new things, yeah. She doesn't shed her indoctrination so much as grow beyond it. And it's cool to watch.
Ganaroth: Hi Von!
Ganaroth: What's up?
vonel: not much
Ganaroth: Well, I hope that things are going well in terms of quality, then. I actually need to go for just a sec, but will be right back, kay?
=^v^=: (( lol that's a really specific example and lulzy actually a thing relevent to someone ))
Ganaroth: ((The specific example was inspired by a specific example, but it's not really the same. The other one was ceremonial. Lae'zel would be willing to do the traditional gloves-off version.))
=^v^=: (( I would rather like them to make the male npcs a bit more endeering ))
Ganaroth: (Mm. I thought that Gale and Wyll were endearing enough (the way that Gale is just slimy in a very specific way that I'm fond of helps) but I have the issue in that I don't think they are particularly INTERESTING.)
Ganaroth: Part of that has to do with the structure of the cosmology in the FR and such, though. Gale would be way more interesting if the gods weren't played unbearably straight in that setting.
Ganaroth: (Anyway, how are things? Folks willing to start doing this?)
Riot: yup
Ra'ven: sure
Eileen: yep
=^v^=: (( lol, someone has a 9 and a half hour youtube video about fallout (all) and their thing is "if you enjoyed this video and want more fallout" as pinned self promotion ))
Kay, so last time we were all here, you ended up in home of one Pasha Plegon; a member of the upper genasi nobility in the city, and secretly a patron of the Silverfang Cult. It became obvious very quickly that there was some tension between the pack leader, Vayak, and Phlegon, the first of whom is an active member of the cult hierarchy, but apparently has to show some deference due to Phlegon's money. You discussed a number of topics, including the apparent insanity of the Emir's edict regarding the Garmera crisis, and the expected fallout.
Ganaroth: ((And, I'll be completely honest, it's been a while and my brain is not running on 100% despite my best efforts, so if someone could remind me of the rest, that would be great. I can pick up these threads easily, I just need to be gently reminded of what they are.))
Riot: (( I think it was mainly discussing trying to get intel from inside the house before we dipped out? ))
=^v^=: (( it was said we probably should kill most of these guys cause they will probably be mad we aren't cultists, they have teleportation wolf orb, we were going to have necromancer girl try to cozy up to the researcher involved, we were going to at some point try to see if the knocked out prof was possessed and/or question him, Ra'ven wasn't super keen on vile betrayal, but terrorist cell. ))
=^v^=: (( also there isn't many foxes since Vul isn't here, but that doesn't really matter ))
Ganaroth: ((Thank you. I remember most of that, though I forgot about the thing with the researcher (Vayak's bf, though I can't remember the name either). Regardless, I've got it together now.))
=^v^=: (( proper name is a log scouring ))
vonel: (( Doesn't look like we ever got the name of the inventor/researcher. ))
=^v^=: (( ya, just that it's a her ))
You currently find yourself in a large room... a study of some variety by the look of it, with several bookcases, comfortable seating and reading stands in evidence. It looks as though it hasn't been used in a while, though, if the thin layer of dust is any indication, and while most visions of a reading room contain large, open windows, this one is barely an arrow slit, and not wide enough to slip a gnome through. The room is still perfectly well lit, though, owing to a complicated arrangement of glowing crystals, lenses, and mirrors, which mimic the appearance and feel of warm outside light very acceptably. On the ground, Okorion allows a small groan to escape his lips.))
Ganaroth: ((Wait, is it a her? I know that Vayak has a boyfriend who works with him... did I claim a different researcher, and then conflate them? Grr. Man, I hate when I screw something like that up.))
vonel: (( Asger Vayak: "Huh. Well, I'll pass it along to the inventor, then. She'll know better than me about the technical stuff, and I'm sure she'll want to know." ))
Ganaroth: ((Oh, right. Durrrrr.... now I recall what I was thinking.))
Ganaroth: ((Vayak's bf is a different person in this whole shitshow.))
Ganaroth: ((Sorry for the confusion.))
vonel: (( I f you ever need/want to review the logs to see what happend just let me know. ))
=^v^=: (( ya his bf was the person who accidently re-experenced being in the womb on a telport ))
Ganaroth: ((Thanks. Part of the issue, of course, is that I don't always know what I don't know until I'm suddenly trying to explain it again. Bad on me, though.))
In any case, from his position on the floor, Okorion gives out a pained groan, and his left hand twitches, as though attemting to reach his own head.
Eileen: "Well now we can get some answers from one of the sorces."
Hector Achilon: "Ok, back up a bit. I dabbed him with a bit of magic earlier, but that doesn't always take care of the complications, so I'll check him out. Ask away while I make sure his eyes are still working right."
Professor Okorion struggles to sit up, supported by Hector. "What....I don't understand..."
Ra'ven: "What yawn-crazed sort of speach was that?!" Ra'ven tries to not shout at the prof
Lucky: "In what universe is 'work together and figure out a solution right now or we'll execute you' a good idea?"
Ra'ven: "A soution that involves harming the wolf. In a room that has Silverfang in it."
Eileen: "Subtle..."
Professor Okorion winces. "Ah... yes, you're upset. I don't blame you, I suppose. This has been handled a bit... impolitically. I'll refrain from belaboring the obvious too much: That I don't make policy, and that my advice carries far less weight with the Emirate than you might imagine, even in these circumstances. Provided that Elsora Tenning's research could be used to authenticate our other observations, my instructions were to make his own position on the matter perfectly clear. If I failed at that... well, I am no rhetorician.I am a capable administrator and an excellent scientist. Speaking to a crowd is a rare and regrettable part of my job." He tries to pull himself to his feet, only to have his spindly frame forced back down by Hector. "To be completely honest, even if a bit rude, I have to agree with the Emir's position. It wasn't spoken with due enough concern for propriety, certainly, but even the Silverfang cultists should be sensible enough to understand that working with the others to help arrive at a less harmful solution would be a wiser course of action than simply setting themselves against the great powers of the world. They all should. They have so much more to lose than to gain by attempting to upend everything now."
Lucky: "A less harmful solution was not what you suggested. You suggested precisely the thing that would set the Silverfang off in the Worst. Possible. Way."
Professor Okorion 's voice is stiff, and clearly offended. "The advice I was given called it "an opening gambit." They claimed that by startling others with a severe set of standards, they would be more willing to bargain down to a reasonable position of their own."
Professor Okorion: "As I am not in the habit of haggling, I felt it prudent to take that advice."
Lucky: "Zealots don't really bargain when you're talking about hurting their god or their god's kids."
Eileen: "Tacitly that makes sense, but..." She trails off and motions to Lucky, "...yeah what she said."
Ra'ven: "Also they were going to kill a rather number of those people there anyways..."
Ra'ven: "I managed to lower it to one, but now you happen to be their prisoner, sort of."
Professor Okorion: "One would think that even Zealots would prefer to bargain if it would mean that their deified ethereologic phenomena might be spared a large scale attempt at attacking her." He sighs. "I honestly don't understand. What you say isn't nonsensical, but it relies on the idea that people are venal and shortsighted to a far greater degree than I wish to acknowledge." He looks at Ra'ven in horror. "I... well, I assumed I was a prisoner when I woke up here. Otherwise I expect I would have been in a bed. I am very much saddened to hear of the death, however. Did you get hthe person's name? At the very least, I should recommend them for an official incense burning."
Eileen: "Didn't really have the time, also don't be suprised if your word or clout mean much to a lot of the others when we get you back. Your students and staff may still hold you in a high regard but everyone else..."
vonel: (( *don't mean ))
Ra'ven looks a bit dumbfounded, "So you are saying you just... had that bad of a speech?"
Professor Okorion: "Oh, no. I fully expect to be relieved of my posting. The Emiral Society is, by its nature, an organization which takes the Emir himself as its ceremonial head. Although rarely invoked, I serve at his pleasure. If the content of his message was a poorly received as you say, I have no doubt that I'll be sacrificed to appease others. My research and knowledge are still important, so I don't expect to be forced out; merely forced to give up power to an appointee that the emir finds more convenient." He shrugs. "I take your word for it that my performance was bad. I was told what to say, and did so. The words themselves were mine, but I am very confident that I interpreted the intent of my instructions correctly. Whatever my failures, they did not involve an excess of my own zealotry."
Professor Okorion: "Hm. Provided that I survive, it might not even be such a bad thing. I believe I did important work administering the society, but getting back to more pure research has its appeal as well, and I have a number of subordinates who I'm confident can handle the position."
Ra'ven hmms
Ra'ven: "Well, they were bad to an extent that you saying them is going to attempt to be spun as a trick by Silverfang?"
Professor Okorion: "The extent of my statement's unacceptability is irrelevant now. I certainly regret my part in it, but blaming me for following the orders of my sovereign while also believing that they were rational, no matter how mistaken that must have been, seems unhelpful to me." His tone carries a certain amount of acknowledgement. "Even if I'd been told to avoid saying things that would play into their hands, I wouldn't have known what to do. That kind of conference, driven by politics and emotion, is not a situation with which I am familar.
Ra'ven nods, "Well, I mean, that's actually what I told them to do... It's a strange order to be given though."
Ra'ven turns to hector, "He's not possessed right?"
Hector Achilon: "Not that I can tell. 99% That's it's not a spiritual posesssion, or an ACTIVE diabolical one. There's a chance that it could be latent diabolism, or an abberrent posession, but the first one is hard to check for, and the second one is really uncommon. Could be a demonic possession, but I sure hope not. Those get messy nine times out of ten. If it's any of those, it's probably a latent form, like with that girl. But you said that when she was active, she actually looked different. Took on a completely different appearance and personality. I don't know this guy very well, but you are all acting more like he made a stupid decision, rather than like he was in the thrall of dark forces, and he definitely didn't turn into someone else physically."
Professor Okorion seems to be taking in the explanation quite calmly.
Ra'ven: "Well, it seems more that he didn't make a stupid decision, he merely followed as best he could someone else's stupid decision."
Eileen nods
Ra'ven: "It's important distinction, right?"
Professor Okorion: "I also didn't see it as stupid at the time. If I've caused great harm, I shouldn't be exonerated for things that I really did fail at. But yes, the positions I expressed were not my own. The Emiral Ethereological Society does not in any sense have the capacity to set policy for any other entity. We barely have the atonomy to set policy for ourselves. I hope that the others will see that clearly, at least, but I'm very concerned about their bruised feeling; we don't have the time or resources to give over to mollifiying wounded egos."
Eileen: "Right then, so the question turns to how do we get out of here. Could just try and force our way out the front door, but I don't know if were even still in the city or not."
Ra'ven hmms, "To be fair, their egos might be a bit molified by blaming this not on the Emir but the silverfang."
Ra'ven: "If we wanted to leave we probably could. If we want to take the professor with us, that'd probably take a bit of convincing."
Ra'ven hmms, "But, I could see it possible? Him being released plays into that ruse."
Ra'ven: "Only downside is they'll probably want to ungently question him first."
Rai Patience Cantor: "That will depend on who successfully spins the situation first, and if we assume that what occured with the Emir's announcement was purposeful, then it is almost certain that our enemies have stolen a march on us." She nods. "We could see about attempting to convince them, but as you said... Have you ever been tortured before, professor?"
Professor Okorion: "No, and my confidence in resisting is very slight. Might it be better to simply say a great many things, true and false, at the very beginning, in order to make your later testimony less credible? I've occasionally had that thought."
Ra'ven: "Thing is, true or not it doesn't matter."
Ra'ven: "You don't know anything particularly useful nor dangerous, other then that my faith in the wolf isn't actually their cult."
Ra'ven: "Also, you don't know that either."
Ra'ven tilts her head, "I mean I am playing an infilitrator."
Ra'ven: "Were you given like, details on how people were supposed to get together, or were you just given that directive to make a speach like that and let the next guy run with it?"
=^v^=: (( also lol Ra'ven accidently doing good cop bad cop ))
Riot: (( lol ))
Professor Okorion: "Well, I thought it might matter if they realized that I was lying to them, and they were able to advance their goals or harm others because of me. I know I wouldn't be able to resist long, I'd only ever thought, idly, if doing something like that might help "the cause" more than trying to strictly lie or stay silent. Worrying about my own fate in such a situation is beyond pointless." He nods appreciatively. "There is no need to worry about how I view you. There are many groups across the column that venerate Garmera in one way or another. Some are malicious, some are forces for true good, and some are merely inoffensive. Whatever you believe, I think it is obvious that it isn't quite the same as what THEY believe. That you speak the same language, figuratively, in only a boon now." He coughs, then attempts to pop his back into position again. "Ugh... I was given a varying amount of details on the kinds of projects that were being considered, the organizational structures being developed, an endeavor's technological, financial and personnel resource costs. However, I am and was still a general manager. I don't have as much specific knowledge as any given department head does over their own kingdom, nor they as much as a project head, then a team head, etc, etc. If you want information on the logistics of the event itself, I will either know the answer or know who does."
Professor Okorion: (I have no idea if any of that was coherent. I was literally typing like the second half of that while drifting in and out of consciousness.)
=^v^=: (( if you are dead we can like, pause here? ))
Professor Okorion: I have no idea why I can't stay awake.
Professor Okorion: I was really trying today.
=^v^=:
Riot: (( it's entirely okay! ))
=^v^=: (( so you didn't fail or be unable to etc ))
=^v^=: (( who knows maybe tomorow night Perra's 11 heist ))
=^v^=: (( or not! And I play like, starfield or something and MINE MORE ORE ))
Professor Okorion: I'm not fishing for compliments. I'm just pissed because I did everything I could to make it work. Yeah, willing to Perra's 11 it, sure.
Riot: (( don't beat yourself up too much. Sometimes your body just betrays you ))
Professor Okorion: Well, see you next week in this kafka-esque nightmare we call social activity. (I won't beat myself up too much. that last bit was purposefully dramatic.)
Riot: (( Okay, get some rest! Gnight y'all ))
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